Christy Mirack /// 224 /// 225

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  • JenniPants
    JenniPants Tacoma, WA
    The Captain has a bowl of soup in his nose ROFL. Captain you crack me up! I love the show! Love all the details you give of the attacks in each episode because, while it is scary and sometimes sickening, it gives us a sense of what people are capable of and reminds us not to under estimate the level of evil these people are. That knowlege helps me remember all the safety precautions. Thanks for your hard work and awesome production and presentation.

    The Captain has a bowl of soup in his nose ROFL.
    Captain you crack me up! I love the show! Love all the details you give of the attacks in each episode because, while it is scary and sometimes sickening, it gives us a sense of what people are capable of and reminds us not to under estimate the level of evil these people are. That knowlege helps me remember all the safety precautions. Thanks for your hard work and awesome production and presentation.

  • Jhainiac
    Jhainiac New Market Pa
    I'm a long time listener and love the show! This story has been all over the local news...I have been hoping you guys would cover it! You guys could do dozens of shows based on our local crime. We had a forensic files episode about a half mile from my house...keep up the good work!

    I'm a long time listener and love the show! This story has been all over the local news...I have been hoping you guys would cover it! You guys could do dozens of shows based on our local crime. We had a forensic files episode about a half mile from my house...keep up the good work!

  • Lora Van
    Lora Van Arlington, VA
    If you see a new word (i.e. phenotype), LOOK IT UP! You sound really dumb or lazy when you mispronounce a word. Is there a way you can not repeat yourself so much? I love a good murder mystery, but your reiteration makes a single episode stretch into two slow-moving ones. Keep it up, get mo' better!!

    If you see a new word (i.e. phenotype), LOOK IT UP! You sound really dumb or lazy when you mispronounce a word.
    Is there a way you can not repeat yourself so much? I love a good murder mystery, but your reiteration makes a single episode stretch into two slow-moving ones.
    Keep it up, get mo' better!!

  • lora van
    lora van Arlingtion, VA
    It's just a handful of keystrokes to learn what an octillion is: a cardinal number represented in the U.S. by 1 followed by 27 zeros Is it that hard for you to look it up? Don't you care enough?

    It's just a handful of keystrokes to learn what an octillion is: a cardinal number represented in the U.S. by 1 followed by 27 zeros
    Is it that hard for you to look it up? Don't you care enough?

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Lora - we have done 225 episodes covering true crime and countless hours of research, of course we care. What you failed to realize is that it is not important for me or any of our listeners to know exactly how big an octillion is as long as we all understand that it is a greater number than the population of our planet. It is a number large enough to exclude everyone but Rowe. Thank you for your insights and constructive criticism. I hope you will join us in the garage again. Cheers Nic

    Lora - we have done 225 episodes covering true crime and countless hours of research, of course we care. What you failed to realize is that it is not important for me or any of our listeners to know exactly how big an octillion is as long as we all understand that it is a greater number than the population of our planet. It is a number large enough to exclude everyone but Rowe. Thank you for your insights and constructive criticism. I hope you will join us in the garage again.
    Cheers Nic

  • RACHEL
    RACHEL OH
    Lora has her undies in a bundle. I think you were exactly right Nic ;)

    Lora has her undies in a bundle. I think you were exactly right Nic wink

  • Reb
    Reb DC
    I was unaware of this case, and was expecting to end the episode with the necessary plea for help. What a great pleasure to suddenly find that this wasn’t the case and the Cretan is in custody! I agree that this DNA method is about to blow open cold cases! In addition to Lane Bryant and other cases where we can still prosecute the offender, I would love to see resolution to Zodiac, DB Cooper, and a host of other really cold legend cases where the person is probs dead, but at least we would KNOW. Or, maybe some, especially DB, are better left to be legends. Finally, you didn’t open up a thread to give me a chance to praise you for your Officer Luki! Our dog heroes deserve justice, too! So, thank you.

    I was unaware of this case, and was expecting to end the episode with the necessary plea for help. What a great pleasure to suddenly find that this wasn’t the case and the Cretan is in custody!
    I agree that this DNA method is about to blow open cold cases! In addition to Lane Bryant and other cases where we can still prosecute the offender, I would love to see resolution to Zodiac, DB Cooper, and a host of other really cold legend cases where the person is probs dead, but at least we would KNOW. Or, maybe some, especially DB, are better left to be legends.
    Finally, you didn’t open up a thread to give me a chance to praise you for your Officer Luki! Our dog heroes deserve justice, too! So, thank you.

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Lancaster PA
    DJ Freeze— He is married to a woman from Russia who had a little girl. Rumor says she was a mail order bride. I thought he seemed sleezy, so didn’t hire him for my wedding. A ton of brides are scrambling for a DJ for their weddings. He allegedly also moved to a foreign country a year after murder. He at sometime moved back to Lancaster. Detectives looking into any other crimes here & abroad he may have committed. No rumors that he was ever anusive to any wives or girlfriends. Everyone is in shock.

    DJ Freeze— He is married to a woman from Russia who had a little girl. Rumor says she was a mail order bride. I thought he seemed sleezy, so didn’t hire him for my wedding. A ton of brides are scrambling for a DJ for their weddings.
    He allegedly also moved to a foreign country a year after murder. He at sometime moved back to Lancaster.
    Detectives looking into any other crimes here & abroad he may have committed.
    No rumors that he was ever anusive to any wives or girlfriends.
    Everyone is in shock.

  • Adam Glover
    Adam Glover Asheville NC
    2018 is killing for solving cold cases! All the ones you listed plus the strange murder of Arliss Perry was solved by DNA as well.

    2018 is killing for solving cold cases! All the ones you listed plus the strange murder of Arliss Perry was solved by DNA as well.

  • Andy
    Andy Stl
    Great episode guys. Early 90's cold cases are your bread and butter IMO. I hope they can use this DNA genealogy to find out who killed Angie Housman in Missouri.

    Great episode guys. Early 90's cold cases are your bread and butter IMO. I hope they can use this DNA genealogy to find out who killed Angie Housman in Missouri.

  • Lindsey
    Lindsey Lancaster pa
    You guys are on top of it! I’m a teacher and graduated from Millersville and work in Lancaster. The killer Some of my friends knew and said he seemed to be a friendly guy. That just proves you never know. A lot of ppl had booked him for upcoming weddings too. So crazy

    You guys are on top of it! I’m a teacher and graduated from Millersville and work in Lancaster. The killer
    Some of my friends knew and said he seemed to be a friendly guy. That just proves you never know. A lot of ppl had booked him for upcoming weddings too. So crazy

  • mG
    mG tX
    This show left me more excited than any other, primarily because of the introduction to Parabon NanoLabs. I grew up in Austin and remember the Yogurt Shop Murders very well, I have studied that case and read everything I could on it. I have reconciled myself in recent years that the police would never catch the guys that did it. However, with the new DNA technology introduced by Parabon NanoLabs, there is now a chance, probably the only chance. Here is hoping that APD turns to this company and sees what they get.

    This show left me more excited than any other, primarily because of the introduction to Parabon NanoLabs. I grew up in Austin and remember the Yogurt Shop Murders very well, I have studied that case and read everything I could on it. I have reconciled myself in recent years that the police would never catch the guys that did it. However, with the new DNA technology introduced by Parabon NanoLabs, there is now a chance, probably the only chance. Here is hoping that APD turns to this company and sees what they get.

  • cathy
    cathy cleveland
    Lora Van SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH its ok... get a different hobby if it bugs you that bad.... Keep up the GREAT podcast Nick and Capitan!!! *Grammar police are annoying *

    Lora Van SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH its ok... get a different hobby if it bugs you that bad.... Keep up the GREAT podcast Nick and Capitan!!!

    *Grammar police are annoying *

  • Louise H
    Louise H Michigan
    Great episode guys. I was especially interested in what you said at the end about this being the Golden Age of solving cold cases using DNA. I can't wait for many more to be solved and meanwhile these scum bags know their days of freedom are limited. One case I'd love for you to cover is Christine Jessop/Guy Paul Morin in Ontario. I was in high school at the time and remember how huge this was. I'd love DNA to finally solve that one.

    Great episode guys. I was especially interested in what you said at the end about this being the Golden Age of solving cold cases using DNA. I can't wait for many more to be solved and meanwhile these scum bags know their days of freedom are limited. One case I'd love for you to cover is Christine Jessop/Guy Paul Morin in Ontario. I was in high school at the time and remember how huge this was. I'd love DNA to finally solve that one.

  • Carly
    Carly Lancaster, PA
    I was in my friends wedding Sunday June 24 where DJ Freeze was the DJ. He was arrested THE NEXT MORNING at his home. He gave off some really sketchy vibes. I was cleaning up the wedding late/loading my car in the same secluded, dark, well wooded parking lot that he was loading up his DJ Equipment. Absolutely crazy. I went to Millersville and it really is the safest area. The only other murder i'm aware of is one that happened while I was a student, and i've included a link. Her boyfriend killed her in the dorm after a party, worth checking out maybe for a future podcast topic! https://lancasteronline.com/complete-coverage-murder-of-millersville-university-freshman-karlie-hall-and/collection_a3ca6cf6-5424-11e6-a725-47902d0623f6.html

    I was in my friends wedding Sunday June 24 where DJ Freeze was the DJ. He was arrested THE NEXT MORNING at his home. He gave off some really sketchy vibes. I was cleaning up the wedding late/loading my car in the same secluded, dark, well wooded parking lot that he was loading up his DJ Equipment. Absolutely crazy.

    I went to Millersville and it really is the safest area. The only other murder i'm aware of is one that happened while I was a student, and i've included a link. Her boyfriend killed her in the dorm after a party, worth checking out maybe for a future podcast topic! https://lancasteronline.com/complete-coverage-murder-of-millersville-university-freshman-karlie-hall-and/collection_a3ca6cf6-5424-11e6-a725-47902d0623f6.html

  • Jgarr
    Jgarr Texas
    I agree that so many cold cases can be solved with this new access to DNA testing through families. What i worry about is how legally it will hold up in court. For instance, if I used a site like ancestry or 23andme to test my own DNA for curiosity and then the company who 'owns' my DNA runs it against criminal databases, if they find someone who is guilty of a crime, does the arrest hold up? Is this going to be a legal way of obtaining DNA for family members? Dont get me wrong, I think its great, I just think lawyers will twist some expectation of privacy issues. That being said, I would love if the technology could find the zodiac killer!!!

    I agree that so many cold cases can be solved with this new access to DNA testing through families. What i worry about is how legally it will hold up in court. For instance, if I used a site like ancestry or 23andme to test my own DNA for curiosity and then the company who 'owns' my DNA runs it against criminal databases, if they find someone who is guilty of a crime, does the arrest hold up? Is this going to be a legal way of obtaining DNA for family members? Dont get me wrong, I think its great, I just think lawyers will twist some expectation of privacy issues. That being said, I would love if the technology could find the zodiac killer!!!

  • Julie
    Julie Michigan
    Lora, I don't think anyone is making you listen to this podcast. Please stop. Thank you.

    Lora, I don't think anyone is making you listen to this podcast. Please stop. Thank you.

  • w.e.
    w.e. ARK.
    Lora, we get it, you’re acting smart. We don’t need to hear it.

    Lora, we get it, you’re acting smart. We don’t need to hear it.

  • Jason A
    Jason A
    Lighten up, Lora! Nic went to college for computer, not fricken numbers. Good stuff, guys!

    Lighten up, Lora! Nic went to college for computer, not fricken numbers.

    Good stuff, guys!

  • Jennifer
    Jennifer Upstate NY
    The whole time I’m listening to episode one I was in complete disagreement as to wether he knew the victim or not. If this had been planned in any way he would have had a weapon or been prepared. As you stated, no one brings a cutting board to rape a woman. It was there- and most likely she picked it up first. I don’t think he set out to rape anyone at all. I think he was trying to rob them. He saw the roommate leave. - and like many robbers assumed a Monday morning the house would now be empty. I don’t know if he knew her at all- I think he was looking to rob someone and they surprised each other. She tried to defend herself- maybe even went after him first, and he became enraged- attacked then left. An article states that his mother was having trouble with him in his teenage years- he was committing petty crimes, theft being one of them.

    The whole time I’m listening to episode one I was in complete disagreement as to wether he knew the victim or not. If this had been planned in any way he would have had a weapon or been prepared. As you stated, no one brings a cutting board to rape a woman. It was there- and most likely she picked it up first. I don’t think he set out to rape anyone at all. I think he was trying to rob them. He saw the roommate leave. - and like many robbers assumed a Monday morning the house would now be empty. I don’t know if he knew her at all- I think he was looking to rob someone and they surprised each other. She tried to defend herself- maybe even went after him first, and he became enraged- attacked then left. An article states that his mother was having trouble with him in his teenage years- he was committing petty crimes, theft being one of them.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Thank you Jennifer, good stuff. Also take it easy on Lora she's not the first nor the last to correct my grammar. Look I'm from Ohio and maybe we talk a little different here than every where else. Plus we say about 6,000 or more words an episode, they won't be all correct - my batting average is not that good. One show I said wonking instead of walking! Cheers to all and Lora! Have a good weekend! Nic

    Thank you Jennifer, good stuff. Also take it easy on Lora she's not the first nor the last to correct my grammar. Look I'm from Ohio and maybe we talk a little different here than every where else. Plus we say about 6,000 or more words an episode, they won't be all correct - my batting average is not that good. One show I said wonking instead of walking!
    Cheers to all and Lora!
    Have a good weekend!
    Nic

  • mG
    mG tX
    Jgarr, a private or public company is not restricted by the 4th amendment, that only restricts the government. However, I am not sure how they would access a criminal database. That being said, there is an "expectation of privacy," but if you voluntarily give your DNA to someone, you lose that expectation of privacy. My bet is, if someone gave their DNA to a firm and then the police asked to see that DNA, it would be up to the company to decide whether to give it or not.

    Jgarr, a private or public company is not restricted by the 4th amendment, that only restricts the government. However, I am not sure how they would access a criminal database. That being said, there is an "expectation of privacy," but if you voluntarily give your DNA to someone, you lose that expectation of privacy. My bet is, if someone gave their DNA to a firm and then the police asked to see that DNA, it would be up to the company to decide whether to give it or not.

  • Eric
    Eric Illinois
    Nic, you display true class in the face of criticism. Keep up the good work!

    Nic, you display true class in the face of criticism. Keep up the good work!

  • Will
    Will Canada
    Hi there. Really enjoying your shows. I like the casual atmosphere you both create while at the same time giving facts and insight. Love the music too. Suits the subject matter well Absolutely delighted some of these cold cases are arresting suspects with the DNA. Awesome! Thanks 👍

    Hi there. Really enjoying your shows. I like the casual atmosphere you both create while at the same time giving facts and insight. Love the music too. Suits the subject matter well Absolutely delighted some of these cold cases are arresting suspects with the DNA. Awesome! Thanks 👍

  • Greg
    Greg Paris
    Favorite line in the episode. "60 guys. That is a lot of semen."

    Favorite line in the episode. "60 guys. That is a lot of semen."

  • Tobi
    Tobi Mississippi
    My girlfriend and I have been listening to this case and we both wonder about the roommate. Do she and the DJ have any connection and could she not have had relations with the DJ (with a known sleezy reputation) and then framed him? Just a thought. A drunk one night stand and a cup of semen later is all that it would take. And was she present in the town for the rape of the 16 year old who was killed in her home? Also, where is she now? I don’t think that the presence of semen should automatically exclude a female suspect.

    My girlfriend and I have been listening to this case and we both wonder about the roommate. Do she and the DJ have any connection and could she not have had relations with the DJ (with a known sleezy reputation) and then framed him? Just a thought. A drunk one night stand and a cup of semen later is all that it would take. And was she present in the town for the rape of the 16 year old who was killed in her home? Also, where is she now? I don’t think that the presence of semen should automatically exclude a female suspect.

  • Bryn
    Bryn Minneapolis
    Just listed to this episode. Totally right on the golden age for cold cases!! I am sure you guys (Nic and Captain) have already heard updates but an update in January 2019 says it was his half sister's DNA that led them to him. I would love to find out if my DNA ever helped catch someone. I also wondered, like Nic did, if suicide rates will increase do to this new technology. I do love the idea of all of these pieces of shit thinking they got away with their crimes for so many years and now having to constantly look over their shoulder. I love you guys and love the show!! Keep up the great work!

    Just listed to this episode. Totally right on the golden age for cold cases!! I am sure you guys (Nic and Captain) have already heard updates but an update in January 2019 says it was his half sister's DNA that led them to him. I would love to find out if my DNA ever helped catch someone. I also wondered, like Nic did, if suicide rates will increase do to this new technology. I do love the idea of all of these pieces of shit thinking they got away with their crimes for so many years and now having to constantly look over their shoulder. I love you guys and love the show!! Keep up the great work!

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