One thing I've always held onto about this case since I first heard it was the email she sent to her boyfriend about not wanting to talk right now that's why she says she didn't answer his calls and that she would call him later. My first thought was she may not wanted to answer because another man was with her and why did she have alcohol with her if she was alone? After listening to the interview today I found out that the atm footage was released and went and watched it and I definitely believe that's a mans jacket shes wearing. I dont think she was alone.
One thing I've always held onto about this case since I first heard it was the email she sent to her boyfriend about not wanting to talk right now that's why she says she didn't answer his calls and that she would call him later. My first thought was she may not wanted to answer because another man was with her and why did she have alcohol with her if she was alone? After listening to the interview today I found out that the atm footage was released and went and watched it and I definitely believe that's a mans jacket shes wearing. I dont think she was alone.
I wanted to say a few things. First of all, Julie was very brave and thoughtful to do this interview. She doesn't owe anyone anything regarding her thoughts and feelings on the subject, so opening up to the public was generous. As far as her thoughts on Maura's illegal behaviors, I understand why she wants to treat it as she does. She is family and therefore incapable of being unbiased on this subject. There is a reason why judges do not preside over cases of relatives, jury members are not allowed to be related to the defendant, and surgeons do not operate on family in most cases. But that's ok, because no one would expect her to be 100% objective where her sister is involved. That is why accepting help from outside sources is essential in missing persons cases. I hope she finds her sister soon. And Nic, even though we didn't hear from you much, thank you for never losing your objectivity. No one could ever accuse you of pandering to your audience. I appreciate that about you. Even though we don't see eye to eye on JonBenet ;) As far as the reporting James Renner has done, I will never agree that it is fair to question his motive. You can always question a man's judgment, and we all should, but questioning motive is something altogether different, especially when you know the person as well as you guys know James. James is one of the nicest people around and you guys know that, or at least I thought you both did.
I wanted to say a few things. First of all, Julie was very brave and thoughtful to do this interview. She doesn't owe anyone anything regarding her thoughts and feelings on the subject, so opening up to the public was generous. As far as her thoughts on Maura's illegal behaviors, I understand why she wants to treat it as she does. She is family and therefore incapable of being unbiased on this subject. There is a reason why judges do not preside over cases of relatives, jury members are not allowed to be related to the defendant, and surgeons do not operate on family in most cases. But that's ok, because no one would expect her to be 100% objective where her sister is involved. That is why accepting help from outside sources is essential in missing persons cases. I hope she finds her sister soon. And Nic, even though we didn't hear from you much, thank you for never losing your objectivity. No one could ever accuse you of pandering to your audience. I appreciate that about you. Even though we don't see eye to eye on JonBenet As far as the reporting James Renner has done, I will never agree that it is fair to question his motive. You can always question a man's judgment, and we all should, but questioning motive is something altogether different, especially when you know the person as well as you guys know James. James is one of the nicest people around and you guys know that, or at least I thought you both did.
It seems to me that many of these mysterious vanishing cases are actually associated with impairment due to mental health issues or substance use, or both. I think this likely is no exception, although it isn't the most interesting of the theories and certainly wouldn't make fuel the hours of podcast speculation about her disappearance. Maura was showing many signs of poor or irresponsible decision-making: 1) stealing lip gloss at West Point, 2) using someone else's credit card multiple times at U Mass, 3) getting a ticket for driving 99 MPH in NH and failing to appear in court, 4) likely knowing that she was continuing to drive on a suspended license, 5) lying to her nursing program to get time off the week of her disappearance, 6) having a car wreck on the weekend before she disappeared, and 7) having a second accident the night she disappeared. In addition, she was seen as emotionally reactive and distraught at work shortly before her disappearance after talking to her sister on the phone, and Julie also talked about earlier walking in on her during a bout with tearfulness at West Point. She was absolutely the right age for an onset of a psychotic disorder or a bipolar disorder. I would not be surprised if there is a family history of one or both. She may have taken off to take care of her ticket woes in an impulsive fashion, but did so in a disorganized state, or there may in fact be little rational explanation for her decision to drive there. This would explain why her motivations seem mysterious - they may not entirely make sense. She may have wandered from the road on foot given paranoia about being in a wreck with a suspended license (not unlike Brandon Lawson's apparent off-road trek when he ran out of gas high on meth and with outstanding warrants) or because of other internally driven fears or misperceptions, and then succumbed to the elements. Her family tends to minimize some of these issues, and understandably so - I probably would do the same if it were my loved one who was missing. A planned disappearance is completely unlikely and while running into a killer is not impossible, it clearly isn't the most straightforward or likely explanation. My guess would be that, if she is ever found, she will be discovered at a point not all that far from the accident site.
It seems to me that many of these mysterious vanishing cases are actually associated with impairment due to mental health issues or substance use, or both. I think this likely is no exception, although it isn't the most interesting of the theories and certainly wouldn't make fuel the hours of podcast speculation about her disappearance. Maura was showing many signs of poor or irresponsible decision-making: 1) stealing lip gloss at West Point, 2) using someone else's credit card multiple times at U Mass, 3) getting a ticket for driving 99 MPH in NH and failing to appear in court, 4) likely knowing that she was continuing to drive on a suspended license, 5) lying to her nursing program to get time off the week of her disappearance, 6) having a car wreck on the weekend before she disappeared, and 7) having a second accident the night she disappeared. In addition, she was seen as emotionally reactive and distraught at work shortly before her disappearance after talking to her sister on the phone, and Julie also talked about earlier walking in on her during a bout with tearfulness at West Point. She was absolutely the right age for an onset of a psychotic disorder or a bipolar disorder. I would not be surprised if there is a family history of one or both. She may have taken off to take care of her ticket woes in an impulsive fashion, but did so in a disorganized state, or there may in fact be little rational explanation for her decision to drive there. This would explain why her motivations seem mysterious - they may not entirely make sense. She may have wandered from the road on foot given paranoia about being in a wreck with a suspended license (not unlike Brandon Lawson's apparent off-road trek when he ran out of gas high on meth and with outstanding warrants) or because of other internally driven fears or misperceptions, and then succumbed to the elements. Her family tends to minimize some of these issues, and understandably so - I probably would do the same if it were my loved one who was missing. A planned disappearance is completely unlikely and while running into a killer is not impossible, it clearly isn't the most straightforward or likely explanation. My guess would be that, if she is ever found, she will be discovered at a point not all that far from the accident site.
Nothing for nothing, but this individual has gotten way more than her fair share of attention. Way more than most missing or murdered people, and I'm not sure why.
Nothing for nothing, but this individual has gotten way more than her fair share of attention. Way more than most missing or murdered people, and I'm not sure why.
I’ve not listened to the case before but I’m deeply moved by it. I had a sister who died in a car crash and it was traumatic and difficult, especially since she was across the country, but the idea of her disappearing and never knowing completely boggles the mind. Julie is a rock, so strong and amazing and it sounds like her sister was amazing. Just wondering, could she possibly have had a head injury? Without the smoking man, could she have tried to walk and got confused and lost? The smoking man is certainly compelling yet we don’t know when he he showed up in that small window. Just a thought
I’ve not listened to the case before but I’m deeply moved by it. I had a sister who died in a car crash and it was traumatic and difficult, especially since she was across the country, but the idea of her disappearing and never knowing completely boggles the mind. Julie is a rock, so strong and amazing and it sounds like her sister was amazing. Just wondering, could she possibly have had a head injury? Without the smoking man, could she have tried to walk and got confused and lost? The smoking man is certainly compelling yet we don’t know when he he showed up in that small window. Just a thought
DID SHE BUY THE BOOZE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE??? I was a college kid in Vermont and whenever my friends and I passed though New Hampshire we stocked up on cheap booze at the roadside, tax-free liquor stores that are off the freeway. Live free or die!
DID SHE BUY THE BOOZE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE??? I was a college kid in Vermont and whenever my friends and I passed though New Hampshire we stocked up on cheap booze at the roadside, tax-free liquor stores that are off the freeway. Live free or die!
I have used the "family emergency" excuse to get out of work/school myself. She needed a few days to get away from school to pay for her driving fine. She definitely wouldn't tell the school about her fines because in nursing school you can get kicked out of the nursing program due to suspended license/ wreckless driving/dui, etc. So it makes perfect sense to me that she would lie, go pay her fines, expect to be there at least 1 day-maybe more. I understand having alcohol in her car. when I was a younger woman my car looked like a homeless person lived in it. I rarely cleaned out my car and just because she had alcohol in her car doesn't mean she necessarily took the alcohol for that trip. She was planning to stay with her mom, pay her fine and then go back to school. She had a car accident, she was stunned and still getting her bearings when the bus driver stopped by. Also, women always say "I'm ok" we don't want to be a burden AND/OR we are afraid to go with anyone. She's a very attractive girl, She was physically fit. I think a truck with 2 men came upon her and it was a crime of opportunity. I think they live in the area, they are familiar with the area. They came upon her and one thing led to another. I think she is gone and buried in the woods.
I have used the "family emergency" excuse to get out of work/school myself. She needed a few days to get away from school to pay for her driving fine. She definitely wouldn't tell the school about her fines because in nursing school you can get kicked out of the nursing program due to suspended license/ wreckless driving/dui, etc. So it makes perfect sense to me that she would lie, go pay her fines, expect to be there at least 1 day-maybe more. I understand having alcohol in her car. when I was a younger woman my car looked like a homeless person lived in it. I rarely cleaned out my car and just because she had alcohol in her car doesn't mean she necessarily took the alcohol for that trip. She was planning to stay with her mom, pay her fine and then go back to school. She had a car accident, she was stunned and still getting her bearings when the bus driver stopped by. Also, women always say "I'm ok" we don't want to be a burden AND/OR we are afraid to go with anyone. She's a very attractive girl, She was physically fit. I think a truck with 2 men came upon her and it was a crime of opportunity. I think they live in the area, they are familiar with the area. They came upon her and one thing led to another. I think she is gone and buried in the woods.
Really disappointed in part 1 of the series. Complete and utter lack of accountability by Julie and The Captain. No matter what it was....she STOLE from the PX. Explained away with she forgot it was in her pocket. Who shops and puts items in their pockets and then empties their pockets at the register? She meant to steal that item. Credit card fraud.....she illegally used someone else's card for food. Explained away by stating she wasn't the only one who did it. Julie stated that when Maura wrecked her dad's car that she didn't get a DUI.....that tells me she knows Maura was drunk or had been drinking. Also explained away by stating that half the campus was probably drunk on that Saturday night. We will see how part 2 is this afternoon.
Really disappointed in part 1 of the series. Complete and utter lack of accountability by Julie and The Captain. No matter what it was....she STOLE from the PX. Explained away with she forgot it was in her pocket. Who shops and puts items in their pockets and then empties their pockets at the register? She meant to steal that item. Credit card fraud.....she illegally used someone else's card for food. Explained away by stating she wasn't the only one who did it. Julie stated that when Maura wrecked her dad's car that she didn't get a DUI.....that tells me she knows Maura was drunk or had been drinking. Also explained away by stating that half the campus was probably drunk on that Saturday night. We will see how part 2 is this afternoon.
I think Julie is a rock star. She is a hero. I hope she knows how awesome she is for going out of her comfort zone to try to get her sister found. I am a big introvert as well and I know how difficult it can be to go out of that comfort zone. I heart you Captain for trying to keep her laughing and comfortable to keep going. Keep up the great work guys!
I think Julie is a rock star. She is a hero. I hope she knows how awesome she is for going out of her comfort zone to try to get her sister found. I am a big introvert as well and I know how difficult it can be to go out of that comfort zone. I heart you Captain for trying to keep her laughing and comfortable to keep going. Keep up the great work guys!
@Shawna, opportunity is a numbers game. I know I have mentioned mathematics before in some posts lol, But that's because numbers don't lie. I am curious where you got the two men in a truck theory? Why a truck? Why two? Why men?
@Shawna, opportunity is a numbers game. I know I have mentioned mathematics before in some posts lol, But that's because numbers don't lie. I am curious where you got the two men in a truck theory? Why a truck? Why two? Why men?
The pregnancy searches make me take pause. Could Maura have been pregnant and was taking a few days off work and school to go have an abortion?
What were abortion laws like in Massachusetts vs New Hampshire back then?
I know Julie said Maura had a pack of birth control pills with some missing, so she couldn't have been pregnant. But I know from experience that it only takes missing a couple pills to become pregnant.
Just a thought.
The pregnancy searches make me take pause. Could Maura have been pregnant and was taking a few days off work and school to go have an abortion?
What were abortion laws like in Massachusetts vs New Hampshire back then?
I know Julie said Maura had a pack of birth control pills with some missing, so she couldn't have been pregnant. But I know from experience that it only takes missing a couple pills to become pregnant.
Just a thought.
It's so awesome that Julie wanted to talk with you guys (and is apparently a fan!). I'm glad she was able to clear up so many questions and misunderstandings about the case. This has also been a good lesson in not judging people based on rumors, since apparently their dad was a great father and it was hurtful to hear the things that were being assumed and implied about him. And Maura's area of study made it perfectly logical that she was looking up information on pregnancy.
I'm sure leaving West Point wasn't easy. As someone who considered switching majors in college, you have this debate about "Well, I CAN do what I'm currently doing, but is that what I WANT?"
All-in-all, this was a great, fresh look at the case, and I hope you guys will be able to bring this level of clarity to other unsolved cases as well.
It's so awesome that Julie wanted to talk with you guys (and is apparently a fan!). I'm glad she was able to clear up so many questions and misunderstandings about the case. This has also been a good lesson in not judging people based on rumors, since apparently their dad was a great father and it was hurtful to hear the things that were being assumed and implied about him. And Maura's area of study made it perfectly logical that she was looking up information on pregnancy.
I'm sure leaving West Point wasn't easy. As someone who considered switching majors in college, you have this debate about "Well, I CAN do what I'm currently doing, but is that what I WANT?"
All-in-all, this was a great, fresh look at the case, and I hope you guys will be able to bring this level of clarity to other unsolved cases as well.
Nicholas nailed it. She was a bad decision making machine and another series of events based on poor judgement likely led to her demise. The idea that someone so wreckless could successfully pull off some Kaiser Soze level vanishing act and start a new life undetected is highly unlikely.
Nicholas nailed it. She was a bad decision making machine and another series of events based on poor judgement likely led to her demise. The idea that someone so wreckless could successfully pull off some Kaiser Soze level vanishing act and start a new life undetected is highly unlikely.
Great episodes. I love how the Captain put Julie at ease and the chemistry they shared. Having attended Umass Amherst and having a daughter at a military academy (also involved with XC), I can certainly relate to the Murray family and the struggles Maura may have gone through. When I first heard about the case, I always thought she may have had a concussion from the crash and wondered off, in search of help, but was disoriented and got lost in the woods. Lately I've come to think that she may have been with a boyfriend in the same or separate car for the ride up as I thought there was evidence of a relationship on campus with a track coach. No matter what happened, I hope and pray the Murray family gets answers soon to this heartbreaking case. Thanks for mentioning the Go Fund Me, I donated after listening.
Great episodes. I love how the Captain put Julie at ease and the chemistry they shared. Having attended Umass Amherst and having a daughter at a military academy (also involved with XC), I can certainly relate to the Murray family and the struggles Maura may have gone through. When I first heard about the case, I always thought she may have had a concussion from the crash and wondered off, in search of help, but was disoriented and got lost in the woods. Lately I've come to think that she may have been with a boyfriend in the same or separate car for the ride up as I thought there was evidence of a relationship on campus with a track coach. No matter what happened, I hope and pray the Murray family gets answers soon to this heartbreaking case. Thanks for mentioning the Go Fund Me, I donated after listening.
I really enjoyed this two-parter. I'll second what Rachel said and remind us all that Julie doesn't owe us anything when it comes to her personal feelings, memories and thoughts on her sister's disappearance, so we should be grateful for her openness and show our support in her fight to find Maura. I liked what Julie said about how everyone should be looked at, and in a case with so much online chatter, I think that's important to remember. Captain, I remember when you posted a photo of you and Julie at Crime Con last year and said you were excited to work with her in the future and you really came through. You asked tough questions, but it was still lighthearted and listening felt more like being a third party to a conversation rather than an interview. I also liked your call for a level of respect within the online communities and couldn't agree more. Nic - I THINK (?) you were in Florida doing some boots on the ground work for the Jabez case and NOT running for condo board president of Del Boca Vista (love when you guys throw in a Seinfeld reference), and your passion definitely showed in that episode, but it was great to hear your take on the new theory in this episode regarding Maura being headed to NH to rectify a suspended license. I too am not married to any one theory in this case, but I really hope Julie and her family get answers soon. Keep doing what you guys are doing, in exactly the way you're doing it.
I really enjoyed this two-parter. I'll second what Rachel said and remind us all that Julie doesn't owe us anything when it comes to her personal feelings, memories and thoughts on her sister's disappearance, so we should be grateful for her openness and show our support in her fight to find Maura. I liked what Julie said about how everyone should be looked at, and in a case with so much online chatter, I think that's important to remember. Captain, I remember when you posted a photo of you and Julie at Crime Con last year and said you were excited to work with her in the future and you really came through. You asked tough questions, but it was still lighthearted and listening felt more like being a third party to a conversation rather than an interview. I also liked your call for a level of respect within the online communities and couldn't agree more. Nic - I THINK (?) you were in Florida doing some boots on the ground work for the Jabez case and NOT running for condo board president of Del Boca Vista (love when you guys throw in a Seinfeld reference), and your passion definitely showed in that episode, but it was great to hear your take on the new theory in this episode regarding Maura being headed to NH to rectify a suspended license. I too am not married to any one theory in this case, but I really hope Julie and her family get answers soon. Keep doing what you guys are doing, in exactly the way you're doing it.
Funny because during the first commercials i was thinking exactly what Nic said following the break regarding the lip gloss incident. I think many of Maura’s actions reflect the mindset of a person who hasn’t yet found her place in this world. I can relate to that sort of thing. Given time she may have learned to make the chaos work for her! Being around the Law all my life I’ve seen people more dysfunctional, made much more worse choices than Maura seems to have done whose lives were changed around, who were able to accept help and right the ship...
Funny because during the first commercials i was thinking exactly what Nic said following the break regarding the lip gloss incident. I think many of Maura’s actions reflect the mindset of a person who hasn’t yet found her place in this world. I can relate to that sort of thing. Given time she may have learned to make the chaos work for her! Being around the Law all my life I’ve seen people more dysfunctional, made much more worse choices than Maura seems to have done whose lives were changed around, who were able to accept help and right the ship...
I agree with Nicholas’s comments. Maura showed a pattern of behaviour that was really disorganized, irresponsible and criminal in some instances. I really enjoyed Julie’s interview, but I think she minimized the seriousness of Maura’s behaviours, they weren’t “little things” when you put them all together. I also don’t think the cause of Maura’s meltdown on the Friday evening was because her sister went to a liquor store after getting out of rehab.
I agree with Nicholas’s comments. Maura showed a pattern of behaviour that was really disorganized, irresponsible and criminal in some instances. I really enjoyed Julie’s interview, but I think she minimized the seriousness of Maura’s behaviours, they weren’t “little things” when you put them all together. I also don’t think the cause of Maura’s meltdown on the Friday evening was because her sister went to a liquor store after getting out of rehab.
While listening to Julie speak about the alcohol purchase stop I had a new thought...
I live in MA and take long weekends etc to the area of NH she was travelling. I find it odd she stopped for alcohol headed to NH because everyone in MA who goes to NH stops at the state line to buy alcohol because there is no sales tax in NH and the alcohol is quite a bit cheaper. I believe it would be unusual for a college kid to buy alcohol in taxachusetts on her way to a place where it is significantly cheaper. Someone who seems to be a frequent drinker and frequenter of that area would know that. We used to actually "head for the border" in college because of this. This coupled with Julie saying there was booze in the car NOT on the receipt makes me think she stopped to meet up with someone in MA to chill for a bit before going to NH ( unaccounted for hour maybe?), that she needed the booze before she got to NH. Potentially the 'extra booze' belonged to whomever she hung out with (?)
I will say I live in eastern MA an potentially the route from western MA up to NH doesn't have similar massive and obvious state line liquor stores.. so I would be interested in someone who heads to NH from that part of MA to comment...
While listening to Julie speak about the alcohol purchase stop I had a new thought...
I live in MA and take long weekends etc to the area of NH she was travelling. I find it odd she stopped for alcohol headed to NH because everyone in MA who goes to NH stops at the state line to buy alcohol because there is no sales tax in NH and the alcohol is quite a bit cheaper. I believe it would be unusual for a college kid to buy alcohol in taxachusetts on her way to a place where it is significantly cheaper. Someone who seems to be a frequent drinker and frequenter of that area would know that. We used to actually "head for the border" in college because of this. This coupled with Julie saying there was booze in the car NOT on the receipt makes me think she stopped to meet up with someone in MA to chill for a bit before going to NH ( unaccounted for hour maybe?), that she needed the booze before she got to NH. Potentially the 'extra booze' belonged to whomever she hung out with (?)
I will say I live in eastern MA an potentially the route from western MA up to NH doesn't have similar massive and obvious state line liquor stores.. so I would be interested in someone who heads to NH from that part of MA to comment...
Is it possible that alcohol is cheaper in NH than MA? Maybe she was picking up alcohol for a party because it’s cheaper there, and she had to go for the driver’s license thing anyway. Just a thought.
Is it possible that alcohol is cheaper in NH than MA? Maybe she was picking up alcohol for a party because it’s cheaper there, and she had to go for the driver’s license thing anyway. Just a thought.
Women don’t “always say, ‘I’m OK.’” Some women do. Some also excessively play the damsel in distress card and some have a healthy balance between taking care of themselves and accepting help.
Women don’t “always say, ‘I’m OK.’” Some women do. Some also excessively play the damsel in distress card and some have a healthy balance between taking care of themselves and accepting help.
Captain flirting with Julie was pretty cute. This was an interesting interview and it makes sense Maura would go to handle the ticket. If she knew the area I could see her taking off on her own after her car would not start to avoid a possible DUI. She may have felt she could handle it. I am not a fan of Julie minimizing Maura's frankly bad behavior. It is really not a common thing for someone to put something they intend to purchase in their pocket. Also, the credit card fraud is pretty bad and those other people were doing it too defenses fall flat. Then we hear she got a ticket for going 99 and had a suspended license and two accidents in what three days? To me it seems she had problems and she needed help but maybe did not know how to get that help. When the accident occurred she may have been like I cannot deal I need to get away, I know the area I will be fine then took off from there. I would be curious to know what the passenger seat looked like. Was it covered with stuff or empty? If the wine was opened in the back seat area then I would guess someone was with her in the car which would throw off my previous thoughts that she took off. Tough case, nice Julie shared her story.
Captain flirting with Julie was pretty cute. This was an interesting interview and it makes sense Maura would go to handle the ticket. If she knew the area I could see her taking off on her own after her car would not start to avoid a possible DUI. She may have felt she could handle it. I am not a fan of Julie minimizing Maura's frankly bad behavior. It is really not a common thing for someone to put something they intend to purchase in their pocket. Also, the credit card fraud is pretty bad and those other people were doing it too defenses fall flat. Then we hear she got a ticket for going 99 and had a suspended license and two accidents in what three days? To me it seems she had problems and she needed help but maybe did not know how to get that help. When the accident occurred she may have been like I cannot deal I need to get away, I know the area I will be fine then took off from there. I would be curious to know what the passenger seat looked like. Was it covered with stuff or empty? If the wine was opened in the back seat area then I would guess someone was with her in the car which would throw off my previous thoughts that she took off. Tough case, nice Julie shared her story.
It’s clear how much Julie loves Maura, and how desperately she wants to believe the best of her. It was heartbreaking. But bottom line, she’s too biased to be a reliable source. One thing is rather obvious: Maura had a drinking problem. She crashed her car twice in 2 days, (who does that?!), she was drinking WHILE driving before the 2nd accident the night of her disappearance (the police found a red substance that smelled of alcohol in a coke bottle, and her box of wine purchased right before she left was opened.). Alcoholism runs in the family ( her sister spent time in rehab for it]. My son is an alcoholic, and his fantasy, which he has fulfilled every time he has the cash to finance it, is to stock up on booze and escape to a hotel by himself where he can drink himself into oblivion and no one can bother him. It sounds crazy, but an addict’s brain is not logical. The cravings for drugs or alcohol supersedes all else. This is what I believe Maura was up to. She thought she could disappear for a few days and no one would be the wiser, return to school and buckle down. That’s another common delusion alcoholics suffer from: “I just have to get this bender out of my system, then I can function better.” But after she crashed her car, AGAIN, while drinking and with open containers in the car, she ran. With the airbags deployed she was forced to abandon the car. Since she was a runner, she figured she could get far enough away and perhaps find a place to rest for the night. But it was cold, and her judgement was impaired. She may have chosen to run off road, got lost, and succumbed to the elements. They should figure out best they can how far she would have been be able to run given the conditions, determine the most likely path she would have traveled to avoid detection, I.e. on back roads off the main route she was driving, hiking trails she might have detected in the dark, and do an extensive search for her remains in that area. I hope one day they will find them and her family can have some closure, especially her dad.
It’s clear how much Julie loves Maura, and how desperately she wants to believe the best of her. It was heartbreaking. But bottom line, she’s too biased to be a reliable source. One thing is rather obvious: Maura had a drinking problem. She crashed her car twice in 2 days, (who does that?!), she was drinking WHILE driving before the 2nd accident the night of her disappearance (the police found a red substance that smelled of alcohol in a coke bottle, and her box of wine purchased right before she left was opened.). Alcoholism runs in the family ( her sister spent time in rehab for it]. My son is an alcoholic, and his fantasy, which he has fulfilled every time he has the cash to finance it, is to stock up on booze and escape to a hotel by himself where he can drink himself into oblivion and no one can bother him. It sounds crazy, but an addict’s brain is not logical. The cravings for drugs or alcohol supersedes all else. This is what I believe Maura was up to. She thought she could disappear for a few days and no one would be the wiser, return to school and buckle down. That’s another common delusion alcoholics suffer from: “I just have to get this bender out of my system, then I can function better.” But after she crashed her car, AGAIN, while drinking and with open containers in the car, she ran. With the airbags deployed she was forced to abandon the car. Since she was a runner, she figured she could get far enough away and perhaps find a place to rest for the night. But it was cold, and her judgement was impaired. She may have chosen to run off road, got lost, and succumbed to the elements. They should figure out best they can how far she would have been be able to run given the conditions, determine the most likely path she would have traveled to avoid detection, I.e. on back roads off the main route she was driving, hiking trails she might have detected in the dark, and do an extensive search for her remains in that area. I hope one day they will find them and her family can have some closure, especially her dad.
I just kept thinking, "Who steals from Fort Knox?" Seriously? I thought it was a joke at first. Her sister and family deserve to know what happened to Maura. I hope that you will get your answers soon. Nick and Captain-great show. Thanks.
I just kept thinking, "Who steals from Fort Knox?" Seriously? I thought it was a joke at first. Her sister and family deserve to know what happened to Maura. I hope that you will get your answers soon. Nick and Captain-great show. Thanks.
Thank your for this episode. Cleared up some questions I had about Maura. Instead of speculations about someone we don’t know. I have always felt like something bad happened to her and that she was not a suicide and after listening to her sister talk about her, I am more convinced.
One thing I noticed, sister referred to “this case”. Several times. That was tough for me. My sister’s disappearance would be better to keep reminding us that she was a person not a number. I think we need to keep getting that out there. And I would say the same for anyone who is missing a loved one.
My brother passed away young to illness but was my brother not a folder.
Hope that didn’t come off picky or snarky just a thought. I pray for her and her family.
Thank your for this episode. Cleared up some questions I had about Maura. Instead of speculations about someone we don’t know. I have always felt like something bad happened to her and that she was not a suicide and after listening to her sister talk about her, I am more convinced.
One thing I noticed, sister referred to “this case”. Several times. That was tough for me. My sister’s disappearance would be better to keep reminding us that she was a person not a number. I think we need to keep getting that out there. And I would say the same for anyone who is missing a loved one.
My brother passed away young to illness but was my brother not a folder.
Hope that didn’t come off picky or snarky just a thought. I pray for her and her family.
I’m way behind and catching up. First Captain is totally into Julie 😂🤣
Next, if Maura was driving drunk and had a suspended license this may well explain why she took off. To avoid arrest!! Is it possible she got lost in the woods and succumbed to the elements? I’m starting to lean that way.
Last I obviously don’t know James Renner but I was concerned by his stating somewhere (was it on here? Can’t remember) that he believed Maura was a sociopath. There is a lot of criteria in order to diagnose someone as having anti social personality disorder. Breaking the law, recklessness and substance could all be but there needs to be more than that. The behavior has to start prior to age 15, and frequently it involves aggressive or violent behaviors (not always some are more like con artists) and they also have to lack any remorse or guilt for those they hurt.
I’m way behind and catching up. First Captain is totally into Julie 😂🤣
Next, if Maura was driving drunk and had a suspended license this may well explain why she took off. To avoid arrest!! Is it possible she got lost in the woods and succumbed to the elements? I’m starting to lean that way.
Last I obviously don’t know James Renner but I was concerned by his stating somewhere (was it on here? Can’t remember) that he believed Maura was a sociopath. There is a lot of criteria in order to diagnose someone as having anti social personality disorder. Breaking the law, recklessness and substance could all be but there needs to be more than that. The behavior has to start prior to age 15, and frequently it involves aggressive or violent behaviors (not always some are more like con artists) and they also have to lack any remorse or guilt for those they hurt.
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