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  • Jeff
    Jeff GA
    I don't think the letter is a taunt of any kind. It's an attempt of being professional so he won't be suspicious of getting a flashlight in the mail. All the details are an attempt to legitimize the need for future work from Wayne. Good job with the story. I heard the season of Someone knows something on Wayne and was disappointed when I saw this week's case. But I enjoyed the episode. Keep up the good work!

    I don't think the letter is a taunt of any kind. It's an attempt of being professional so he won't be suspicious of getting a flashlight in the mail. All the details are an attempt to legitimize the need for future work from Wayne. Good job with the story. I heard the season of Someone knows something on Wayne and was disappointed when I saw this week's case. But I enjoyed the episode. Keep up the good work!

  • Brian
    Brian DE
    the new(ish?) transition music is awesome!

    the new(ish?) transition music is awesome!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Listening to part one right now, specifically the point where the Captain asks "why send a note at all?" and I had the same thought that Jeff in GA did. A flashlight with no sender name attached, no note, a strange return address, and a glued-shut battery compartment would be plenty of red flags. Hell, the battery compartment alone would be enough for me.

    Listening to part one right now, specifically the point where the Captain asks "why send a note at all?" and I had the same thought that Jeff in GA did. A flashlight with no sender name attached, no note, a strange return address, and a glued-shut battery compartment would be plenty of red flags. Hell, the battery compartment alone would be enough for me.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Leicester, UK
    Agree with Nic and Jeff (above) .... the letter is absolutely with the purpose of making receiving a random gift from a stranger in the mail seem OK. Why taunt a victim that you are hoping/assuming is just about to die? If any of the content was real then the risk of the letter surviving the explosion, and being potential evidence, would be a bad move. Am slightly confused why TCG covered this as I seem to remember a comment from Nic ages ago that they didn't want to cover cases that had been done thoroughly by other podcasts and you can't compete with the excellent Someone Knows Something for thoroughness. Still, glad to hear the TCG viewpoint.

    Agree with Nic and Jeff (above) .... the letter is absolutely with the purpose of making receiving a random gift from a stranger in the mail seem OK. Why taunt a victim that you are hoping/assuming is just about to die? If any of the content was real then the risk of the letter surviving the explosion, and being potential evidence, would be a bad move.
    Am slightly confused why TCG covered this as I seem to remember a comment from Nic ages ago that they didn't want to cover cases that had been done thoroughly by other podcasts and you can't compete with the excellent Someone Knows Something for thoroughness.
    Still, glad to hear the TCG viewpoint.

  • Emily
    Emily Maryland
    When I heard the name on the letter -- William F. French -- I wondered if it was a sly nod to the fact the writer was a French-speaking Canadian? Or even from that part of Canada? Makes me wonder if that was ever followed up by investigators.

    When I heard the name on the letter -- William F. French -- I wondered if it was a sly nod to the fact the writer was a French-speaking Canadian? Or even from that part of Canada? Makes me wonder if that was ever followed up by investigators.

  • Gibal Sandwich
    Gibal Sandwich
    Suicide, maybe? The bomb only goes off when it is away from other people, despite other people flicking the switch. Wayne's company was on the ropes, right? The letter was for the people Wayne held responsible for the failure of the business. No finger prints or DNA on the evidence... Except Wayne's. The glaring hole in this theory is misspelling "Leesa".

    Suicide, maybe? The bomb only goes off when it is away from other people, despite other people flicking the switch. Wayne's company was on the ropes, right? The letter was for the people Wayne held responsible for the failure of the business. No finger prints or DNA on the evidence... Except Wayne's. The glaring hole in this theory is misspelling "Leesa".

  • Jon Banks
    Jon Banks
    Great episode guys! This is one I have actually never heard anything about. I feel like Old Man Ed’s indifferent attitude towards the family in his interview is more damning than it seems. It would take that sort of disposition to send a bomb into the home of a man with a family. Hopefully this crime is solved and justice brought to those responsible. I can’t imagine how horrific the scene would have been for the family.

    Great episode guys! This is one I have actually never heard anything about. I feel like Old Man Ed’s indifferent attitude towards the family in his interview is more damning than it seems. It would take that sort of disposition to send a bomb into the home of a man with a family. Hopefully this crime is solved and justice brought to those responsible. I can’t imagine how horrific the scene would have been for the family.

  • becca
    becca louisiana
    i think the letter was intended to be cryptic enough to lead investigators to who the bomber belived wayne really was and to expose ayne to his family and everyone else. its someone who hates wayne enough to want to hurt his family and ruin their views on him

    i think the letter was intended to be cryptic enough to lead investigators to who the bomber belived wayne really was and to expose ayne to his family and everyone else. its someone who hates wayne enough to want to hurt his family and ruin their views on him

  • Kelly
    Kelly Los Angeles, CA
    The letter in my opinion was to put Wayne at ease so he would not think anything of it to use the flashlight. The party who wrote it wanted to throw out names so Wayne would think the person was harmless. I listened to the SKS season on this as well and Wayne to say the least was no angel so my suspicion is that he did something truly awful to someone or their family member and this was the retaliation.

    The letter in my opinion was to put Wayne at ease so he would not think anything of it to use the flashlight. The party who wrote it wanted to throw out names so Wayne would think the person was harmless. I listened to the SKS season on this as well and Wayne to say the least was no angel so my suspicion is that he did something truly awful to someone or their family member and this was the retaliation.

  • I’m not saying the bikers did this crime, but check out the “Quebec Biker War”. There were many fatal bombings involved in that conflict, and it would’ve been going on around the same time. Maybe that’s where that comes from? I’m literally not sure why I knew this off the bat. I may need a true crime intervention.

    I’m not saying the bikers did this crime, but check out the “Quebec Biker War”. There were many fatal bombings involved in that conflict, and it would’ve been going on around the same time. Maybe that’s where that comes from?
    I’m literally not sure why I knew this off the bat. I may need a true crime intervention.

  • Aislinn
    Aislinn Ohio
    I’m not

    I’m not

  • Claire
    Claire Ireland
    To me it sounds like something someone who he borrowed money from might have done. They might have thought since they moved house and got a load of land that Wayne actually had the money to pay them back... I worked for a small company where the boss owed money to lots of different people. He used to come in and say 'if anyone calls for me, I'm not in' and sure enough most of the calls would be about money owed. If he had borrowed a lot of money off someone dangerous, they might have just decided to get revenge... it would also explain Waynes obvious paranoia. I think mentioning the woman he was having the affair with was a clue. I think whoever it was followed her to the farm... and that's how they found him.

    To me it sounds like something someone who he borrowed money from might have done. They might have thought since they moved house and got a load of land that Wayne actually had the money to pay them back...

    I worked for a small company where the boss owed money to lots of different people. He used to come in and say 'if anyone calls for me, I'm not in' and sure enough most of the calls would be about money owed. If he had borrowed a lot of money off someone dangerous, they might have just decided to get revenge... it would also explain Waynes obvious paranoia.

    I think mentioning the woman he was having the affair with was a clue. I think whoever it was followed her to the farm... and that's how they found him.

  • Donald
    Donald White House
    Ok, this is what happened, the Democrats are to blame and it most likely was a Mexican immigrant , so if the wall had been built well then this wouldn't have happened!!! And Mueller should concentrate on this case and not on the witch hunt of Russia. No Collusion!!!

    Ok, this is what happened, the Democrats are to blame and it most likely was a Mexican immigrant , so if the wall had been built well then this wouldn't have happened!!! And Mueller should concentrate on this case and not on the witch hunt of Russia. No Collusion!!!

  • Logan
    Logan IA
    Please explain more things with references to The Office! It is basically the filter through which many of us understand the world. I love it!

    Please explain more things with references to The Office! It is basically the filter through which many of us understand the world. I love it!

  • Ryan
    Ryan
    Liquor stores in my area all save their boxes for people to take for whatever use. Usually stacked up in the corner. Every time i have moved my belongs have been packed in whiskey and wine boxes so Id think that would just be easy to obtain and he had no connection with it. My Grandpa has ran a typewriter repair shop out of his garage since the 90s and I know we sold daisy wheels and all sorts of parts and accessories. Those would be pretty easy to obtain from any little shop especially in the 1996. A little harder now. I think the letter was just to make Wayne comfortable and not suspicious. The bomber sounds paranoid and careful with the extra stamps and all. He would be nervous he was going to get caught or found out in some way. I liked the idea that he might have seen the mail box. Could he have been nervous about weather? If it got wet with snow could that have damaged the bomb and made it not functional? If so he'd want to make sure it was placed inside the mailbox. On to Part II. Very interesting episode!

    Liquor stores in my area all save their boxes for people to take for whatever use. Usually stacked up in the corner. Every time i have moved my belongs have been packed in whiskey and wine boxes so Id think that would just be easy to obtain and he had no connection with it.

    My Grandpa has ran a typewriter repair shop out of his garage since the 90s and I know we sold daisy wheels and all sorts of parts and accessories. Those would be pretty easy to obtain from any little shop especially in the 1996. A little harder now.

    I think the letter was just to make Wayne comfortable and not suspicious. The bomber sounds paranoid and careful with the extra stamps and all. He would be nervous he was going to get caught or found out in some way. I liked the idea that he might have seen the mail box. Could he have been nervous about weather? If it got wet with snow could that have damaged the bomb and made it not functional? If so he'd want to make sure it was placed inside the mailbox.

    On to Part II. Very interesting episode!

  • KLP
    KLP Tennessee
    Are there two "Lisas" (Leesa at Surge and Lisa who he had an affair with)?? If so in the letter might Lisa NOT be the one from Surge? Maybe someone knew that when writing the letter.

    Are there two "Lisas" (Leesa at Surge and Lisa who he had an affair with)?? If so in the letter might Lisa NOT be the one from Surge? Maybe someone knew that when writing the letter.

  • Ken
    Ken Astoria, NY
    It is moving into "movie" territory but the name on the letter could it be nod to the actual killer, like say a Bill English. Its a long shot, maybe a moon shot, but with this case over 20 years old I wonder if any of the investigators played around with name combinations. With the ending of "last flashlight you'll ever need" does give some theatrics to the letter and could believe that each piece of it is a couple steps from exposing the mailer.

    It is moving into "movie" territory but the name on the letter could it be nod to the actual killer, like say a Bill English. Its a long shot, maybe a moon shot, but with this case over 20 years old I wonder if any of the investigators played around with name combinations. With the ending of "last flashlight you'll ever need" does give some theatrics to the letter and could believe that each piece of it is a couple steps from exposing the mailer.

  • Mellow
    Mellow Seattle
    I hope that the dude in the truck In the driveway was just pulling in to turn around and then suddenly looks up to see a dude charging at him with a pool cue. Talk about pants shitting time!! I deliver packages for amzon sometimes and pull that move all the time. I’m going to be keeping an eye open for this every time now!

    I hope that the dude in the truck In the driveway was just pulling in to turn around and then suddenly looks up to see a dude charging at him with a pool cue. Talk about pants shitting time!! I deliver packages for amzon sometimes and pull that move all the time. I’m going to be keeping an eye open for this every time now!

  • ALE
    ALE MD
    The Captain had me groovin'

    The Captain had me groovin'

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Yes the music was great. Look for True Crime Garage the musical "On Broadway" next fall starring Neil Patrick Harris and Kal Penn. This is pegged to be the hit of 2019. It's the next Hamilton. All music is done by the Captain and all of the choreography is arranged by yours truly. Cheers Nic

    Yes the music was great. Look for True Crime Garage the musical "On Broadway" next fall starring Neil Patrick Harris and Kal Penn. This is pegged to be the hit of 2019. It's the next Hamilton. All music is done by the Captain and all of the choreography is arranged by yours truly.
    Cheers Nic

  • Rachael
    Rachael Wisconsin
    Whom ever sent this package took the time to compose the text on the box to match the enclosed letter (Script Font) ... I'm sure that took a steady hand, and a little artistic skill. You can almost see a straight indentation in the wrapping paper as a guide to write in a straight line (this may be creases from the package)....

    Whom ever sent this package took the time to compose the text on the box to match the enclosed letter (Script Font) ... I'm sure that took a steady hand, and a little artistic skill. You can almost see a straight indentation in the wrapping paper as a guide to write in a straight line (this may be creases from the package)....

  • Katie
    Katie NH
    Literally days after listening to this episode I got a mysterious package in the mail 🙈🙉🙊

    Literally days after listening to this episode I got a mysterious package in the mail 🙈🙉🙊

  • mG
    mG tX
    The fact that it was a bomb screamed outlaw motorcycle clubs. The bomb has always been a favorite tool they have used when at war, be it the Outlaws, Hell's Angels. Mongols, they like to make pipe bombs. Towards the end of the broadcast we find out this guy has a Harley. Canada has a lot of 1% clubs. Could be he was operating in someone else's territory. Could have burned someone that had a relative in a club. I am leaning heavily towards bikers.

    The fact that it was a bomb screamed outlaw motorcycle clubs. The bomb has always been a favorite tool they have used when at war, be it the Outlaws, Hell's Angels. Mongols, they like to make pipe bombs. Towards the end of the broadcast we find out this guy has a Harley. Canada has a lot of 1% clubs. Could be he was operating in someone else's territory. Could have burned someone that had a relative in a club. I am leaning heavily towards bikers.

  • Elle
    Elle Atlanta
    When the captain pronounced the name of the fake companies the second episode, I heard a double meaning that I'm thinking might be intentional. Acton Home Products as "Act In Home" meaning were acting on something in your house by bombing you. It might be reading too much into it but I can't get it out of my head now.

    When the captain pronounced the name of the fake companies the second episode, I heard a double meaning that I'm thinking might be intentional. Acton Home Products as "Act In Home" meaning were acting on something in your house by bombing you. It might be reading too much into it but I can't get it out of my head now.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Interesting thought Elle... Cheers Nic

    Interesting thought Elle...
    Cheers Nic

  • Corinne
    Corinne Ontario
    Great Ep so close to home, small town om Canada never gets noticed. I hadnt heard of this case,,thanks guys! BTW Greavette is a rich fikk name in these parts

    Great Ep so close to home, small town om Canada never gets noticed. I hadnt heard of this case,,thanks guys! BTW Greavette is a rich fikk name in these parts

  • Teri
    Teri California
    Listened to TCG first, then SKS and then listened to TCG again. The two Ed’s are most likely suspects but it also could have been anyone else who felt Wayne had screwed them over. I am most intrigued by Ed Jr. because he first slipped and said he drove by the farm once and noted it looked nice then later said he didn’t even know where Wayne lived. He also was starting up a competitive water bottling company at the same time, was he not?

    Listened to TCG first, then SKS and then listened to TCG again. The two Ed’s are most likely suspects but it also could have been anyone else who felt Wayne had screwed them over. I am most intrigued by Ed Jr. because he first slipped and said he drove by the farm once and noted it looked nice then later said he didn’t even know where Wayne lived. He also was starting up a competitive water bottling company at the same time, was he not?

  • ABC
    ABC DEF
    WILLIAM J. FRENCH: - FRENCH = Gaelic = Galick - J. = junior - WILLIAM = Will I am "I am Galick Junior"

    WILLIAM J. FRENCH:
    - FRENCH = Gaelic = Galick
    - J. = junior
    - WILLIAM = Will I am

    "I am Galick Junior"

  • Me
    Me Canada
    Who profits from this murder? Interesting that the unemployed 17 year old daughter is out driving around on a Thursday with a nameless boyfriend. That bomb could have started a fire and killed the remaining family members leaving Danielle the sole survivor. The farm sale was finalized only days before the murder. Investigate the boyfriend.

    Who profits from this murder? Interesting that the unemployed 17 year old daughter is out driving around on a Thursday with a nameless boyfriend. That bomb could have started a fire and killed the remaining family members leaving Danielle the sole survivor. The farm sale was finalized only days before the murder.
    Investigate the boyfriend.

  • Me
    Me Canada
    Wayne's brothers name is Jim who was an undercover drug cop in Toronto. Delivery man, Joe, was the next door neighbour of the Greavettes. He lived on a property with a fish farm. The Greavette's fracked their spring water which caused problems with the health of the fish. Wayne had sued SERGE for a larger percentage of the business and lost the court case. Ed senior had no reason to hurt Wayne. It is sad that the family implied that.

    Wayne's brothers name is Jim who was an undercover drug cop in Toronto.
    Delivery man, Joe, was the next door neighbour of the Greavettes. He lived on a property with a fish farm. The Greavette's fracked their spring water which caused problems with the health of the fish.
    Wayne had sued SERGE for a larger percentage of the business and lost the court case. Ed senior had no reason to hurt Wayne. It is sad that the family implied that.

  • Me
    Me Canada
    The daughter, Danielle, went on to live in Toronto and is credited with working in " craft services" in the movie Mercy (2000) starring Ellen Barkin. She is the first murder victim shown lying naked on a bed with her eyelids removed. The Greavette farmhouse exterior is featured at the end of the movie. Available free on Youtube.

    The daughter, Danielle, went on to live in Toronto and is credited with working in " craft services" in the movie Mercy (2000) starring Ellen Barkin. She is the first murder victim shown lying naked on a bed with her eyelids removed. The Greavette farmhouse exterior is featured at the end of the movie. Available free on Youtube.

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